posted by Esther @ 1:54 PM
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This couldn't have happened at the worst moment.I don't think he'll be able to do much after this.It takes long time to recover.Let's hope he'll pull through.
This is a terrible event, my prayers are with Israel, him, his family and friends.
I've been worried since he had his first stroke.I kept saying why don't they just repair the hole in his heart right away. I hope he makes it, but it doesn't look good after a massive hemorrhage.
The radio said a small stroke... not significant...(*)>
A hemorrhagic stroke (bleeding into the brain) is the worst kind.And to add to this sad event, I read this atrocity:A radical Palestinian leader in Damascus, the Syrian capital, called the stroke a gift from God."We say it frankly that God is great and is able to exact revenge on this butcher. ... We thank God for this gift he presented to us on this new year," Ahmed Jibril, leader of the Syrian-backed faction Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command, a small radical group, told The Associated Press.Jackals!
I am, felis. He just got out of surgery. Though the DC bureau of where I work heard rumors he was dead, I think they've underestimated him once again.I'm with ya on that, JP.Agreed, Cube. And it seemed weird to me too to wait. But surgery is a tricky thing regardless if you're on a blood thinner.Radio was wrong, I'm afraid, BW.AOW, exactly. Oh and I heard what that guy said in Damascus too. What a ... if I'm allowed to say, what a douche bag. Then again, your word worked well too.
Very bad news. keeping him and Israel in my prayers.
From the news reports on his condition, it's hard to imagine he could recover to the degree necessary to resume a political career. Right now his prospects don't look good. Not only that, but the Deputy Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, is a real weasel. When he ran for the Jerusalem mayoralty against Teddy Kollek, probably one of Israel's most beloved politicians, he pandered to the ultra-Orthodox (even though he himself isn't particularly religious) because he knew that was the only constituency where Teddy Kollek, an unabashed secularist, wasn't popular. As a result, Jerusalem began experiencing a reduction in its secular middle-class population. Definitely not a good thing as far as the city is concerned. If I were an Israeli voter, I'm not sure I'd want him running the country.Also, these imbecilic Palestinians who are preparing to celebrate in the event of Sharon's death had better hope that Bibi Netanyahu doesn't become Prime Minister. You know what they say. Be careful what you wish for.
Shite. I vaguely heard something about this on the radio this morning I didn't realise how serious it was. I just don't know what to say hon, other than G-d bless. My thoughts are with you and with Israel.
AOW is right. Hemorrhagic is bad. Unless there is a miracle, most do not ever fully recover, if at all.
Israel will be fine a democracy is built to survive this.
I'm ever the doomsayer, but I agree with Beak: Israel will be fine a democracy is built to survive this. In the words of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, when he was writing about the American Civil War: The wrong shall fail, the right prevail...Peace on earth...
this was really a bad time for this to happen. Israel needs his leadership especially now that it appears that Hamas will be elected by the Palestinian people. Fortunately, Israel has plenty of strong leaders to help guide them through this.
I wish him better.Can't help echoing what Beakerkin and AOW have said, though.I pray that Israel is guided by wisdom, strength and - watchfulness...
DEAR GOD!Rocket 'Barrage' If Sharon DiesJERUSALEM – Palestinian groups in the Gaza Strip are watching the news regarding Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's deteriorating health carefully and will celebrate with Qassam rocket firings at Jewish towns if Sharon dies, terror leaders told WorldNetDaily. One militant leader threatened the life of Sharon's temporary replacement, Deputy Minister Ehud Olmert, who was installed as prime minister just hours ago. "I am ready with my candies and my rockets and praying to Allah that Sharon dies. We have prepared a celebratory barrage of rockets ready to fire into Israel on the occasion of the death of our enemy," said Abu Abir, spokesman for the Popular Resistance Committees, an umbrella group of Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists responsible for firing hundreds of Qassam rockets and mortars at Jewish towns....
Rory,"it's hard to imagine he could recover to the degree necessary to resume a political career"I have a fried who got a stroke 2 years ago.He was 48.He has never fully recovered phisically.The worst part is that his intelectual capacity also diminished.
Remember when Sharon proposed and then followed through with the Gaza disengagement plan? Does anyone remember those orthodox religious zealots who held a prayer vigil to put a death hex on Sharon? This turn of events will give such crackpots undeserved credence (at least among the crackpots' followers). Just look at what Pat Robertson, a leader of our "good friends," the evangelicals, had to say -- basically, that Sharon had this coming as divine retribution.The Sharon Era is over. He was proof of the power of democracy, and proof that no one is ever too old to evolve in his or her philosophy. He is about to turn 78. Those who see a divine hand in this ought to be ashamed of themselves.I hope the man has a peaceful and dignified exit from this life.
As a Christian, I'm getting fed up with Pat Robertson's proclamations. At least since 9/11, he's being voicing his interpretations of various world events as "God's judgment," thereby forgetting Jesus' warning in the Sermon on the Mount: Judge not, lest ye be judged.Robertson--and Falwell, too--does not have a direct line to God and would do well to remember that.
Watching the news today, it didn't sound like Sharon would ever be able to return to his political office. It's really a miracle that he was able to survive at all. Three major surgeries on a 77-year-old man. I guess you saw that comment by Iran's president hoping that Sharon would die.
Thanks guys. Great discussion. Yes, I'm disappointed with many of the reactions, though not shocked...except maybe by the far right Jews who want Sharon to die (nod to Jonathan). That I'm a bit disgusted by. Arabs, I expect it. Jews should be a bit more humane, no matter what they make think of Sharon. He still fought in every Israeli war and while perhaps was a bit of a rebel and an egotist, he still put his life on the line time after time.This stroke and the recent surgery (in addition to the long initial one) to relieve the pressure/fix bleeding have probably taken quite a toll. I'm almost 100 % sure he will never return to politics (unless a miracle happens). I'm not convinced, sadly, that he'll ever leave the hospital.I will try to keep my AP access open all weekend and let you guys know if any big news alert breaks.
People like Pat Robertson and the lunatic fringe rabbis really ought to be ashamed of themselves. This is hardly the time to be making those sorts of pronouncements. Not only that, but if God really could strike down Ariel Sharon, while the hell didn't he get rid of Yasser Arafat 40 years ago?But, as far as Sharon's condition is concerned, there was an interesting report on the news today. It said that his doctors were ready to pronounce him dead, but after meeting with his family and some of his closest aides, it was decided they would perform the additional surgeries, even though that would normally be unheard of for somebody his age and in his condition. Supposedly, this was done in order to shield the Israeli public from the shock his death would cause. But it makes you wonder if that was the only reason. After all, Israelis are some of the most resilient people on earth. They survived more than four years of horrific suicide bombings and the shocking assassination of Rabin...not by some Arab maniac, but by another Israeli. So, while the loss of Sharon would certainly have far-reaching consequences, I'm not sure why it was decided that the death of a nearly 78 year-old Prime Minister, who was notorious for his unhealthy lifestyle, would be too much of a shock for Israelis to deal with. Felis,How terribly sad about your friend. The effects of a stroke can be so devastating, especially for somebody his age when his intellectual capacities have been compromised.
Oh felis. I should have responded to yours specifically. I'm so sorry about your friend. It's gut wrenching to see someone we care about become a shell of their former self. Very little is harder.
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