Thursday, October 06, 2005

College Campus: The Front at Home

We've all heard about what kids on campus are facing -- anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism. But that conflict has now escalated. On Oct. 3, it is believed that Joel Henry Hinrichs III (won't be sure it's him until the DNA results come in), a 21-year-old Oklahoma University mechanical engineering student, killed himself -- with a bomb -- 100 meters from a stadium filled with football fans. Not your average suicide. Many along the blogway have picked up the complexities of this story, even if many mainstream news sources have not.

According to an article in The Oklahoma Daily, the school newspaper, the student in question reportedly "inquired at a local feed store about purchasing a significant amount of ammonium nitrate, the store’s general manager said, according to a local television station." A man similar to his description was apparently in the store days before the explosion.

The president of the university, David L. Boren, "confirmed that law enforcement officials found dangerous materials inside Hinrich’s residence at Parkview Apartments and that they were detonated at a Norman Police Department firing range Sunday night." There have also been reports that Jihad material had been found in his room, which was located close to the Islamic Society.

I did a search on Google News on Joel Henry Hinrichs and no major newspaper/online service, except maybe Town Hall, is listed on the first page of hits. For Yahoo News, the only major news outlet listed on the first page is the Dallas Morning News, which has two -- including the dad saying his son had no political motives though he admitted that his son had an interest in explosives. Huh? I find all of this very strange. This should be HUGE news. Why are my fellow bloggers (and local Oklahoma papers) and World Net Daily the only ones taking this seriously?


At 10:25 AM, Anonymous Rory said...

It remains to be seen if this is the tip of the iceberg, but one of the things that's interesting is the fact that Joel Hinrichs had a Pakistani roommate. While there's always the possibility that he was just a severely disturbed young man who wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, if I had a nickel for every parent of a suicide bomber who said their kid wasn't political, I'd be a very rich woman.

Another problem is that the case has never really been definitively closed on the Middle Eastern connection to the Oklahoma City bombing and another man who witnesses claimed was involved, and who was later reported to have some connection to Iraqi intelligence. In addition, there's a journalist named Jayna Davis, who did extensive research on the Middle Eastern connection and presented very detailed findings to some people at the FBI who, apparently, sat on their hands...something that probably shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody, considering the intelligence failures that preceded the attacks on 9/11.

At 12:17 PM, Blogger Esther said...

Rory, Jayna has a book out with her findings -- "The Third Terrorist" -- I have it. My dad read it first and while he was very skeptical prior, after he read it he was very impressed.

At 3:56 PM, Anonymous Felis said...

Please check the latest updates form this Free Republic query:

At 4:37 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

if I had a nickel for every parent of a suicide bomber who said their kid wasn't political, I'd be a very rich woman.

So true!

Maybe Hinrichs was mentally ill or severely depressed, but the usual suicide method of such individuals is not a bomb.

Repeatedly, Dr. Walid Phares of The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, where GWB gave his speech today (Did you notice how high his level of sincerity was?), has warned of different waves of al-Qaeda. One of those waves is that of the converts. Was Hinrich a convert?

I've just about given up altogether on the msm as they are too susceptible to the pressure from special-interest groups, one of which is CAIR.

At 6:19 PM, Blogger Esther said...

Thanks Felis!! That was great!

AOW, do you think CAIR and its ilk are the reason the MSM is ignoring stuff like this? Or are they in denial?

At 4:45 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I also posted this at Gindy's:

I think I had my "democracy" organizations mixed up in that last comment. But my point about Dr. Walid Phares is still valid. Have you visited his site?

I had a thought when I read Dr. Phares' site this morning. Did GWB's speech latest speech have any connection to what happened at OKU? The public's natural connection is to tie the speech with the latest alert in NYC, but for the most part, the public doesn't know about the event in OK.

I have to ask if that alert and what happened in OK have a connection. (besides the possible and general ideological connection, of course)

Maybe I'm imagining bogey men under the bed.

At 5:11 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

You asked: AOW, do you think CAIR and its ilk are the reason the MSM is ignoring stuff like this? Or are they in denial?

I just don't know why there hasn't been msm coverage of the story in the first place. Usually the msm go right after anything sensational. Did the msm local to Oklahoma City carry the story? I haven't checked on that yet. I feel sure that if such an event happened in a more significant venue (NYC, a stadium in Los Angeles, etc.), the event would've have been more widely reported. OK is under the msm's radar, so to speak.

But as connections to the Islamic Center started to appear, we still heard nothing from the msm. And I believe that the fear of being targeted by CAIR plays in at that point. Also, I can't discount two other possibilities: (1) The authorities asked the media to quell the story in the interests of national security [Remember what Rory pointed out: the case has never really been definitively closed on the Middle Eastern connection to the Oklahoma City bombing and another man who witnesses claimed was involved, and who was later reported to have some connection to Iraqi intelligence], and (2) Americans are notorious for denial until something bites them in the ass [Pardon my French].

Here's one for you....Now that NYC is again targeted, why aren't the msm grabbing onto all those talking heads who have insights as to the dangers of Islamism as a guiding ideology and thus a root cause of the problems in the world today? We saw so many of those talking heads in the weeks following 9/11! If I were a station manager right now, I'd get Robert Spencer on the air ASAP. I attribute the msm's ignoring of Spencer, whose book The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam is on the NYT's bestseller list right now, a sign that CAIR and the same ilk are exerting control over our media.

And let's not forget that Saudi is buying into Fox News, as I reported over at my blog. So here's my next question....Is the ownership of our media compromised by foreign investment?

PS: Have you ever seen the master list of jihad attacks soft-pedaled by the media (and by others as well)? The list mentions the first jihad attack on our shores, and I bet you remember the event: the fellow who did the shooting at the CIA's entrance. He was reported as a lone nut, but such wasn't really the truth. When he fled to Pakistan, he found plenty of refuge because of Pakistan's ties to terrorist activities.

At 5:50 AM, Blogger Mark said...

Let's not forget Muhammed and Malvo, the DC snipers. It was reported that Muhammed stated he was answering the call for global jihad. In my book, that makes them terorists and their sniping terrorist attacks.

AOW - Do you have a link to the CIA sniper and his name? I was trying to pull that story up weeks ago to send to a local reporter who stated in the Santa Rosa Press Democrat that the WTC attacks of 9/11 were the first foreign attack on US territory since Pearl Harbor. (His terminology, verbatim). His story appeared on September 11 of this year. Needless to say, I was incensed enough to send him a letter itemizing all the attacks on US territory since Pearl Harbor, but that CIA sniper was one I couldn't find info on.

All the attacks since PH have been by Islamic extremists, and several have been on foreign US Embassy grounds which any idiot (exceopt reporter idiots) knows is US territory.

At 5:55 AM, Blogger rockmother said...

This whole serious question of coverup and distortion seems to permeate absolutely everything. It's very, very worrying.

I feel that "open government" legislation actually makes things worse. Because now the lies are actually recorded in government records as truth and fact, and we'll never get at them.

In the UK, stuff remains secret for 30 years and then gets released (sometimes longer for certain types of information). Yes, I know, 30 years is a long time, but - boy - when we get to see it at last, it's a real education.

And anyway, does anyone really believe that "open government" means we get the truth right now? Not on your Nelly!

BTW, this crap is not confined to the issues you report. It is everywhere - and is just as dangerous. I have blogged on Geology, Politics and the media.

Distortion should be countered wherever it occurs.

Thank goodness for the internet - and OTB in particular!

You guys are doing a really great service.

At 6:22 AM, Blogger rockmother said...

BTW, have you come across

It's well worth a visit.

At 6:53 AM, Anonymous Rory said...

I did see Robert Spencer on Fox News this morning, but we'll see how long it will be before all that Saudi cash kicks in and people like him become persona non grata.

You're right about that attack at the CIA and if we think back, there were a number of incidents that were whitewashed by the government and the media. One, in particular, that comes to mind was the downing of that Egyptian airline by the co-pilot. Of course, the Egyptian authorities claimed it was just the work of a deeply disturbed individual. Yeah, and one who just happened to be yelling "God is great" as the plane was going down. It makes you wonder if we've really been told the truth about TWA Flight 800.

At 7:25 AM, Blogger Esther said...

AOW, if you're imagining bogey men under the bed, sometimes i feel I'm seeing the same guys. And if CAIR is the reason the MSM is barely covering this OK story (though OK papers are covering it), my disgust will know no bounds.

Mark, the DC snipers were the definition of terror. My folks were nervous to exit their home. And I'm rather appalled that reporter didn't know better! Good on you for straightening them out!

RM, your system over there sounds a bit better. At least one could finally learn the truth. And I'll check out that link! Thanks. :)

Rory, I wouldn't be surprised if Fox News doesn't change as much as you fear. I do think you are right on target with some of these "incidents" that authorities claim aren't terror related. I'm still not convinced about that plane, soon after 9/11, that went down in NY not being terror-related.

At 9:03 AM, Blogger Gindy said...

"the student in question reportedly "inquired at a local feed store about purchasing a significant amount of ammonium nitrate"

It's not reportedly anymore. The police have come out and said that he was trying to buy the substance. There was an officer there when he made the attempt.

I am hoping that we see more about this in the next few weeks.

At 9:51 AM, Blogger Esther said...

Gindy, it'd be nice if some major outlet picked this up and kept us updated. Right now it seems like it's up to us regular folks along the blogway to keep everyone informed about this huge story.

At 10:22 AM, Anonymous Rory said...

The Pakistani's name was Mir Aimal Kasi. That should get you some links to the story. And that so-called journalist sounds like an idiot. It's good you set him straight.

At 8:57 PM, Blogger patrickafir said...

I've been following, making tentative, qualified suppositions, and noticing a distinct lack of interest on the part of big media.

At 9:23 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

I'm still looking for that comprehensive list--bookmarked, of course. But I have so many bookmarks!

I think that Rory has the name right.

At 9:34 PM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

You might want to check this link:


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