Sunday, April 02, 2006

Ibrahim's Mirror

Soccer Dad asked that fellow bloggers alert everyone to this very important post. Please check it out and be sure to read it to the very end.


At 5:44 AM, Blogger beakerkin said...

Excellent post but it must be read until the end.

At 6:37 AM, Blogger birdwoman said...

Yes, it was a good post, but I was very confused.

I was on Ibrahim's side the whole time. I couldn't believe the actions of the Jews, and it made me think that perhaps I'm not getting the right story about things over there... I also could not understand why the Jewish citizens would act like that - they have such a bad rep already, they need to have behaviour that is above impropriety.

I guess, with the revelation at the end of the article, my initial perceptions are correct, at least at this point in time? Jews don't normally do stuff like this, but usually are the recipients?


At 7:10 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

As you know, I am not Jewish, but I am a supporter of Israel.

I was on Ibrahim's side the entire time and had to reread the article in order to understand why one's feelings might shift with the revelation at the end.

What happened to Ibrahim was not fair! Sure, he shouldn't have taken the law into his own hands, but having come from poor farmer stock on my mother's side, I can well understand why Ibrahim took action himself.

Thought-provoking article.

At 8:40 AM, Blogger Rory said...

It was definitely a fascinating intellectual exercise, but for those of us who did sympathize with Ibrahim, it would be interesting to see what would happen if this story were told in reverse. How many Arabs would be sympathetic to an Israeli given the same circumstances?

And what was up with that Mobius character with his obnoxious commentary? An Orthodox Jew with a delusional sympathy toward the Palestinians who gratuitously spews the F-word at every opportunity. WTF is his problem?????

At 2:49 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...

Excellent read..but like you stated, read it till the end. The "mirror" effect made this story very thought-provoking. Still, in either case, Ibraham should have the right to do whatever he wants (as long as he is not interfering with others' right) and this also was a political effort to stir up emotions. I am sure that this is more of an aberration that a common occurrence.

At 2:52 PM, Blogger American Crusader said...

AOW said...he shouldn't have taken the law into his own hands

If it was in reality his lands, what law was broken. He should have the right to pull up the trees just as he has the right to pull out weeds.

At 8:52 PM, Blogger MissingLink said...

Yes, I was with Ibrahim all the way although I thought for a while the story was written by some Palestinian supporters.

At 10:57 PM, Blogger Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Ibrahim was wrong to allow the trees to be planted on his land in the first place. I can recommend a good shotgun for the task.

At 5:20 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said...

Mr. Beamish is right. One has to protect one's property.

At 11:03 AM, Blogger Brooke said...

A suggestion to supplement Mr.Beamish's excellent shotgun offer:One or two very, very large, free-roaming dogs.

At 1:53 PM, Blogger Gindy said...

That's a good one. I will have to use that tomorrow. I will bet that catches a lot of people off guard.

At 6:12 AM, Blogger Sergeant America said...

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

Using this as my premise, in a circumspect manner; I will state my belief that if the trees were planted upon Ibrahim's land, by purpose or accident ... in my neck o' the woods, they would be HIS trees. Therefore, he should (hate the word) be able to administer any action upon them as he wished.

There may just be an inverse correlation between those of poverty and limited education with the use of the law and trust in "the system?"

If these "well meaning (forget the religion aspect)" souls planted trees on my land without first consulting me for my concern on the sanctity of my property boundaries; I would remove them as well.

I find fault with groups who visit another's land and try to "plant" anything without a good study into the ramifications of such an act.

The World is not as simple as one would wish it to be? Culture is at the heart of such difficulty, IMO.

Disclaimer: Lengthy comment due to my infrequent visits to Esther's fine blog.

At 5:30 PM, Blogger Rebekah said...

Great post. It's good for both sides not to rely on their biases all the time.
Though, I must say, I was on Ibahim's side during that, anyway.

I agree with birdwoman, though. I think it shows Jews seem to be the victims of this kind of stuff a lot.

At 11:56 PM, Blogger rockmother said...

Reading this was an interesting experience. My daughter and I tend to use this sort of "mirror" a lot. But you have to be careful! Mirrors can distort too!

Perhaps the real point is that some people do take the intellectual trouble to think into things, try to be fair - while others just get mad-angry and full of hate and reach for the bomb-vest or its emotional equivalent.

Thanks for sharing this intriguing post.


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